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Greenbelters Weigh In On GHI's Vote Against K-9 Kennel

Greenbelters spoke up about GHI's vote against an officer building a K-9 kennel in Greenbelt, but so did out-of-towners.

Greenbelters came in on both sides in Patch's poll on a K-9 kennel in Greenbelt, but it's difficult to tell their exact numbers, as it appears that people outside Greenbelt took the poll as well.

On Jan. 26 (GHI) voted against Greenbelt Police Officer Robert Defibaugh's request to build a K-9 kennel in his yard. As of Wednesday, out of a total of 256 poll takers, 202 (or 78 percent) stated their disagreement with GHI's decision.

On Thursday, Patch posted a new poll (below) that allows everyone to participate, but includes city of residency in its choices.

Some comments below the first poll came from out-of-towners, who noted they were residents of places such as College Park and Berwyn Heights. Some of the commenters were also convinced that almost all of Old Greenbelt, which includes GHI, is opposed to kennels.

Mike Brown wrote, "It is sad that the community feels no need to support officer Defibaugh."

"You tell 'em Kelly. Make sure K-9 doesn't respond to any calls on Old Town either," Sluff Johnson wrote on Tuesday, addressing Officer Kelly Lawson, in an article on crime prevention tips.

There were indeed Greenbelters who weighed in against a kennel, "Everyone we talk to in GHI - Greenbelt, is feeling relieved and grateful at the decision by the GHI Board of Directors upholding our bylaws that insure the well being of the members" wrote Ray and Barbara Stevens.

But other Greenbelters shared a different opinion, "I live in GHI and I would be delighted to have him as a next door neighbor. My Shih Tzu probably barks more than his dog would. My Bernese almost never barks outside," Nancy Kressler wrote on Wednesday, after Johnson's comment.

After the new poll, please list the town where you live with any comments you leave. If you live in Greenbelt, also state whether you live in GHI.

  • Poll segment one is for out-of-towners.
  • Poll segment two is for Greenbelt residents.

You do not have to register to participate in the poll, it only takes a mouse click.

Please note the order of poll segments was determined arbitrarily by software.

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Laura Bergmann February 16, 2012 at 02:28 pm
I grew up in Old Greenbelt next door to a K9 -- we never heard a peep from him. K9s are highly trained and extremely disciplined. My vacation condo building had the privilege of a K9 tennant for one season (no kennel required there!) However, my association's board ultimately voted them out -- even though it was a great crime deterent and there were no problems with the dog. That board also acted without consulting the members. But all that aside, the most dissapointing aspect of this GHI issue is the Pet Companion Committe response. I know they're volunteers, but one would have expected they would have provided metrics such as: we typically responde to xx complaints monthly; complaints tend to be about the following breeds; complaints are resolved equitably xx percent of the time; xx number of pets have been evicted from GHI; and finally, the previous GHI K9 resulted in xx number of complaints, which were (or were not?) resolved. Instead the committee's input is to say that they don't approve of K9 training techniques. What are we supposed to infer from that? Are they trying to say that because of these techniques, K9's have a higher incidence of agression? If so, where is the data to support that? If the volunteers don't have time or ability to gather that data, allow the Greenbelt Police dept or the FOP to gather it. Speculation without supporting data isn't much help. Sigh.
Laura Bergmann February 16, 2012 at 02:57 pm
More food for thought: The issue isn't really pro- or anti-K9. GHI has no rules against dogs or K9's for that matter. The issue is that GHI members require permission and/or variances for a yard structure or enclosure like a K9 kennel. Perhaps Greenbelt PD and/or the FOP could research or reconsider the kennel requirements. Ocean City doesn't seem to have that requirement. What about other places like NYC, etc? If GPD waives the kennel requirement, the issue becomes moot.
Donald Comis February 16, 2012 at 04:46 pm
As a prospective member of the Companion Animal Committee, I saw the report the committee prepared with the type of metrics you ask for, with input from GHI staff and the GHI boad committee liaison member. I tried to get police input on training procedures but time was too short to get it. The K-9 supervisor at the meeting provided the information. GHI members are more likely to complain to GHI than the police. It's small wonder--when my friend Andy Levine complained about an encouner between his dog and the supervisor's K-9, he was told he could be arrested for fending off a K-9 dog. And the supervisor at the meeting said "this was a lie." The commitee report was presented at the meeting and is available upon request from GHI.
Donald Comis February 16, 2012 at 04:51 pm
I agree entirely with Laura. I also spoke to a former GHI board president who had been involved in other kennel issues and she said "GHI is too small for K-9 dogs." That is the main reason I felt the board made it's decision. Also, the example of the failure of correct treatment of K-9 dogs in the county that led to dogs being used to attack people who were not fighting back shows the importance of citizens not leaving it to the police to be the experts on things like dog training. But I don't believe the board made its decision based on the training issue, other than the fact that the supervisor could not reassure the board that there would be a solution to concerns about members' peace of mind and safety. I applaud him for his honesty. I fully support the police and assume their K-9 training is in line with best practices, but I want to verify as well as trust.
Rick Hudson February 16, 2012 at 08:30 pm
Glad to have the officer moving to College Park... Greenbelt's loss, our gain!
tcmitssr February 16, 2012 at 09:46 pm
If GHI is too small for a K-9 officer's kennel, how is GHI able to justify a family of 6 living in a small house and taking up so much of the total GHI footprint.
Again, GHI's Board of Directors are a disgrace, in my opinion, with their decision on this issue. If a canine officer gave up his or her life to save a GHI member and/or protect their property, would they revisit their decision?
Terpalum98 February 18, 2012 at 04:02 pm
Sounds to me, Donald, that you have a personal issue with the Greenbelt K9 Unit. One one hand you "support" the police and the K9 unit, but in the same paragraph you bring up an incident that happened to your friend, which you weren't there for, and an incident that happened regarding Stephanie Mohr and the PG County Police 10 years ago. I doubt you know ALL of the facts in that case either. I think that the public here, including you Don, need to educate yourself into what actually goes into training a police dog before you comment on how citizens shouldn't leave training to the police. I doubt a citizen goes to a fulltime 14 week school to train their dogs. Choose to educate yourselves from a real POLICE source, not the University of YouTube. And yes, I do live in College Park, and welcome Officer Defibaugh to our community.
Terpalum98 February 18, 2012 at 04:14 pm
I also feel that if GHI stuck to the opinion that the barking would disturb neighbors or people had safety concerns, that would be one thing. It by reading all of the posts and hearing about the meeting, it seems to me that some people used this as a forum to speak against K9 training as a whole. This is not the correct forum for that. Police K9's are trained the way they are for a reason, because they go after people that don't want to be caught. Just like dogs for the blind are trained to be used by the blind. Same thing. Educate yourselves.
For Police 100% February 19, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Ok people of greenbelt, would you rather have barking dog, or a drug dealer or robber! I don't think so that police officer and his dog is here to protect you! You people need to relax. First of all those who are scared of the dog, he's trained not to attack people unless his owner tells him to!!! So with that eveyone who is mad about this, your going to regret one day when someone breaks into your house and there's no dog or officer there to help you!!!! So calm down!!!! The Greenbelt police officers are here to protect you and your family's!
Sheri February 21, 2012 at 10:43 pm
The voting choices really needed another option, which I would have chosen: "I support K9s and police officers; however, in GHI the location of their kennels should be considered on a case by case basis, determined by adjacent walkways and immediate neighbor concerns." I believe that is what happened in this incident.
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